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		<title>By: ablokecalledbloke</title>
		<link>http://quietwatercourse.co.uk/2006/04/12/science-tolerance-and-the-tao/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>ablokecalledbloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi scynne, thanks for responding, that may sound like a wierd thing to say, but I believe that one of the best ways we can develop ourselves both spiritually and intellectually is through not agreeing.  I try to make my comments in as detached a manner as possible, so please don't take my comments personally, they're certainly not meant that way, though I'll be the first to admit I'm not perfect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;"anybody who thinks that there is more scientific evidence for evolution is a highly ignorant and misinformed individual."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'm afraid that would include an awful lot of scientists, a sizeable chunk of the UK population and the Roman Catholic and Anglican churches, which both accept it. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Speaking personally, I've never come across ANY evidence that convinced me of the truth of Creationism, and I have looked into the subject.  Everytime I read one of those arguments lists I find something that doesn't ring true.  For my money, Evolution is the best supported theory.&lt;br/&gt;--------&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;You will find that there is far more evidence against evolution than for it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My research suggests you'll find plenty of evidence in support of Evolution, a quick search on Google (also Talk Origins) will give you plenty of reading.  Further to this, the list of gaps in the evidence grows smaller with time, this would seem to point to only one eventual conclusion.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have seen plenty of refutations of the counter arguments to Evolution.  And the point about deceit and trickery, if you'll indulge me, I'd like to refer you to "&lt;a HREF="http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/2437/paluxy.htm" REL="nofollow"&gt;Paluxy River&lt;/a&gt;".  Another look at the validity of Creationism can be found &lt;a HREF="http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/gish.html" REL="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br/&gt;--------&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;From a scientific point of view, all the evidence points to something (I don't care if it is any sort of god or whatever) having created everything we see on a day-to-day basis.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh, there's no argument that *something* created it, but I see no evidence of a creator and some good logical arguments against one: &lt;a HREF="http://ffrf.org/books/lfif/?t=theologian" REL="nofollow"&gt; Dear Theologian&lt;/a&gt;, for example. The Big Bang is looking like the best current model for the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi scynne, thanks for responding, that may sound like a wierd thing to say, but I believe that one of the best ways we can develop ourselves both spiritually and intellectually is through not agreeing.  I try to make my comments in as detached a manner as possible, so please don&#8217;t take my comments personally, they&#8217;re certainly not meant that way, though I&#8217;ll be the first to admit I&#8217;m not perfect.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;anybody who thinks that there is more scientific evidence for evolution is a highly ignorant and misinformed individual.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that would include an awful lot of scientists, a sizeable chunk of the UK population and the Roman Catholic and Anglican churches, which both accept it. </p>
<p>Speaking personally, I&#8217;ve never come across ANY evidence that convinced me of the truth of Creationism, and I have looked into the subject.  Everytime I read one of those arguments lists I find something that doesn&#8217;t ring true.  For my money, Evolution is the best supported theory.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br /><i>You will find that there is far more evidence against evolution than for it.</i></p>
<p>My research suggests you&#8217;ll find plenty of evidence in support of Evolution, a quick search on Google (also Talk Origins) will give you plenty of reading.  Further to this, the list of gaps in the evidence grows smaller with time, this would seem to point to only one eventual conclusion.  </p>
<p>I have seen plenty of refutations of the counter arguments to Evolution.  And the point about deceit and trickery, if you&#8217;ll indulge me, I&#8217;d like to refer you to &#8220;<a HREF="http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/2437/paluxy.htm" REL="nofollow">Paluxy River</a>&#8220;.  Another look at the validity of Creationism can be found <a HREF="http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/gish.html" REL="nofollow">here</a>.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br /><i>From a scientific point of view, all the evidence points to something (I don&#8217;t care if it is any sort of god or whatever) having created everything we see on a day-to-day basis.</i></p>
<p>Oh, there&#8217;s no argument that *something* created it, but I see no evidence of a creator and some good logical arguments against one: <a HREF="http://ffrf.org/books/lfif/?t=theologian" REL="nofollow"> Dear Theologian</a>, for example. The Big Bang is looking like the best current model for the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Scynne</title>
		<link>http://quietwatercourse.co.uk/2006/04/12/science-tolerance-and-the-tao/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Scynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appologize if I sound at all rude, but anybody who thinks that there is more scientific evidence for evolution is a highly ignorant and misinformed individual. Before making claims that "Creationism is a belief that so strongly contradicts the available evidence that it's not even a bad joke, many proponents have used deceit and trickery to promote it..." do some research. You will find that you have made an ass of yourself by complaining about beliefs that clash with reality, and then giving your oppinion, which completely and utterly clashed with reality. Do some digging. You will find that there is far more evidence against evolution than for it. From a scientific point of view, all the evidence points to something (I don't care if it is any sort of god or whatever) having created everything we see on a day-to-day basis. So, learn about what you plan to talk about before you make statements that are blatantly untrue and cause educated people to laugh at the sheer lack of applied knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appologize if I sound at all rude, but anybody who thinks that there is more scientific evidence for evolution is a highly ignorant and misinformed individual. Before making claims that &#8220;Creationism is a belief that so strongly contradicts the available evidence that it&#8217;s not even a bad joke, many proponents have used deceit and trickery to promote it&#8230;&#8221; do some research. You will find that you have made an ass of yourself by complaining about beliefs that clash with reality, and then giving your oppinion, which completely and utterly clashed with reality. Do some digging. You will find that there is far more evidence against evolution than for it. From a scientific point of view, all the evidence points to something (I don&#8217;t care if it is any sort of god or whatever) having created everything we see on a day-to-day basis. So, learn about what you plan to talk about before you make statements that are blatantly untrue and cause educated people to laugh at the sheer lack of applied knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Scynne</title>
		<link>http://quietwatercourse.co.uk/2006/04/12/science-tolerance-and-the-tao/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Scynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appologize if I sound at all rude, but anybody who thinks that there is more scientific evidence for evolution is a highly ignorant and misinformed individual. Before making claims that "Creationism is a belief that so strongly contradicts the available evidence that it's not even a bad joke, many proponents have used deceit and trickery to promote it..." do some research. You will find that you have made an ass of yourself by complaining about beliefs that clash with reality, and then giving your oppinion, which completely and utterly clashed with reality. Do some digging. You will find that there is far more evidence against evolution than for it. From a scientific point of view, all the evidence points to something (I don't care if it is any sort of god or whatever) having created everything we see on a day-to-day basis. So, learn about what you plan to talk about before you make statements that are blatantly untrue and cause educated people to laugh at the sheer lack of applied knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appologize if I sound at all rude, but anybody who thinks that there is more scientific evidence for evolution is a highly ignorant and misinformed individual. Before making claims that &#8220;Creationism is a belief that so strongly contradicts the available evidence that it&#8217;s not even a bad joke, many proponents have used deceit and trickery to promote it&#8230;&#8221; do some research. You will find that you have made an ass of yourself by complaining about beliefs that clash with reality, and then giving your oppinion, which completely and utterly clashed with reality. Do some digging. You will find that there is far more evidence against evolution than for it. From a scientific point of view, all the evidence points to something (I don&#8217;t care if it is any sort of god or whatever) having created everything we see on a day-to-day basis. So, learn about what you plan to talk about before you make statements that are blatantly untrue and cause educated people to laugh at the sheer lack of applied knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: ablokecalledbloke</title>
		<link>http://quietwatercourse.co.uk/2006/04/12/science-tolerance-and-the-tao/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>ablokecalledbloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, no system is without it's flaws, I always take comfort in the fact that at least Science is fairly self-correcting.  If only dogmatic religions had that quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, no system is without it&#8217;s flaws, I always take comfort in the fact that at least Science is fairly self-correcting.  If only dogmatic religions had that quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Dragon</title>
		<link>http://quietwatercourse.co.uk/2006/04/12/science-tolerance-and-the-tao/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble starts when you realise that Science is not without its' dogmatism, skewed facts and fabricated evidence itself.  In Science, the effect of having to publish, to constantly have to search for funding and then show that you've 'got results' - these are not conditions that always lead to disinterested scientific investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble starts when you realise that Science is not without its&#8217; dogmatism, skewed facts and fabricated evidence itself.  In Science, the effect of having to publish, to constantly have to search for funding and then show that you&#8217;ve &#8216;got results&#8217; - these are not conditions that always lead to disinterested scientific investigation.</p>
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